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Editor's Note:
We've saved this older discussion because it's a common problem about which numerous people have given good advice. Your advice is welcome too.

The discussion below also includes an extended response from Neil MacQueen, our Rotation.org Lead Writer, about how the Writing Team has handled. "long, giant, and book-length" stories.

A Rotation-specific version of this discussion can be found in the "Planning Your Scope and Sequence" forum at https://www.rotation.org/topic...e-stories-like-moses


What do you do when the story you are studying is long? Say, for example, the story of Joseph in Egypt covering Genesis 39 - 45.

I would still have students find the story in their Bible but plan to tell the story using a paraphrase or Bible story books. Is this ok?

Should I have older students read a portion of the story from the Bible?

What have others done?

--Carol

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Things that could be done:

1. Find the story in the bible; read a part of it and summarize the rest. (You could read a different part for each workshop - example: Genesis 39:1-39 in cooking, Genesis 40: 1-52 drama - whatever works)

2. Each workshop could cover a different part of the story (though this limits the repetion that rotation workshop emphasises).

3. Have older students research and present their part of the story (depending on size of group)

4. We've used CD and Bible story books to paraphase the story or to make it more like life today for the students. I usually make sure the students at some point open up their bible and point out differences in the bible from the story book. Example: I have a story book I'm using for David & Goliath in our temple area this coming year and it talks about David bring pizza to his brothers so I have them check the bible to see what he really brought was lunch.

Hope that helps.
Wendy
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We usually ask the teachers to retell the story in their own words (or from an outline or a script they know really well) while holding their Bible open to reinforce the fact that the story comes from the Bible. (Notecards can be held in the Bible)

In some lessons everyone finds the passage and reads part before the summarized retelling and sometimes after, but we always read part of the scripture, usually a passage that emphasizes a key point. (The K/1 would open to the passage and then close the Bibles and listen, since most cannot follow along when someone else is reading.)

If we are showing a movie that retells the story (like the new Veggie Joseph -- it's great!) we would pick a key passage to read and not have a summary - the movie would serve as the summary. (Although with most Veggie tales, you have to discuss the difference between reality and vegetables at some point in the lesson.)

And I have found that many stories are too long for the youngest to read/listen to from the Bible -- if it is more than 20 verses, I consider going with a summary of the story and then reading part of the scripture.
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Break long stories into multiple Rotations

we use Cornerstones curriculum material and this year they are covering this material nicely in two units: Joseph and his Brothers and Joseph in Egypt.

When you are teaching a story that is LONG you need to decide what is the main focus of the story you are trying to teach and then build your storytelling, activities, workshops around that idea only. Much in some stories are beyond the comprehension of children (and many adults!) and would just confuse, so the need to be selctive is important.
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This is one of the things we have struggled with also. I'll ditto what several people have already mentioned. We have chosen to do more than one rotation on some really long stories -- Joseph for example, Paul and currently Moses. Even still, the different parts are lengthy. We ALWAYS have the kids find the story in the Bible because that's one of our main goals -- to improve their familiarity and comfort with their Bibles. We use the headings in the kids' Bibles to guide our paraphrase. If the memory verse is directly from the story, they typically will find that. Sometimes we may pick out a main idea or verse or two to read directly from the Bible. As the kids learn the story (after several weeks), if they forget a detail they can look it up in their Bible. We use Bibles with great notes -- pictures, insights, etc. and we have the kids read and discuss those as they apply to the story.

The biggest problem we have with LONG stories is that the teachers don't watch the clock. They end up spending way too much time going over the Bible story and having to rush through the activity. We give time guidelines in all our lessons, but this still remains a common problem.

I also think you can add richness and depth to a story by having some of the workshops focus on a specific part of the story. You can still quickly tell the rest of it, but have the primary emphasis on one aspect. We are doing this with Moses right now. Two workshops are focusing on the plagues, two on the Passover and two on the Red Sea crossing. We've already done birth and call, so we'll also briefly review that.

Blessings,
Jaymie
Other thoughts on LONG stories...

Neil MacQueen posted September 17, 2004
(Exchange Volunteer notes: Neil wrote these comments to someone who was asking about teaching Jacob & Esau to younger students.)

Sometimes we do well to simply "teach the story." If they learn the story, the story can teach it's own meanings.

So with a HUGE story like the one you're tackling, and with younger children, learning the parts of the story and being able to sequence the story is a tall enough order. Sequencing can be done through games, illustrations, flash cards (pictures) and software.
<>< Neil

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Lisa M. posted September 28, 2004 02:14 PM

...It is my experience that K-3 need to hear the story paraphrased rather than reading out of the Bible. (2nd and 3rd can read parts from the Bible, but usually can't get meaning from the whole thing.) Other than that, they can usually participate in the same activities as 4-6 grade. Children throughout this age group have similar learning styles and while the completed art project for a 1st grader won't exhibit the skill that a 6th grader has, they will both learn from the lesson. Both of my older children (Kindergarten, age 3 1/2) are involved with rotation and I'm amazed how much of the lesson they understand and bring home.

Metaphors and themes are difficult for anyone younger than Jr. High. Possibly if you think things are too tough for K-3 they may be over the head for the older kids, too.
Peace,
Lisa

An UPDATE to the discussion about how to handle "long stories" 

written by Neil MacQueen, Lead Writer of the Rotation.org Writing Team

The Rotation.org Writing Team has encountered this "LONG STORY" issue on numerous occasions, and each time we have a big discussion about how to handle it.

Whether you're a Rotation or Traditional format Sunday School, we all pretty much have the same length of classes  --45 to 55 minutes, thus, the various solutions we've come up with will undoubtedly work for you too.

Our solutions usually depend on the type of story we are dealing with, namely, is it just "LONG" passage or is it a GIANT story spanning multiple passages and chapters, or is it an entire BOOK.

There are LONG passages like the story of the Crucifixion, and then there are GIANT STORIES that span multiple chapters like Joseph's stories. And then there are stories which are an entire BOOK, ...Jonah for example.

"LONG":  Adam and Eve, Jesus' Crucifixion, 

"GIANT":  Jacob and Esau, Joseph, Exodus.

"BOOK":   Ruth, Jonah

LONG stories are the easiest to deal with, but how you deal with them will depend on the story itself and whether you are Rotating or not.

For example, when writing Jesus Goes to the Cross, we chose Mark 15:1-47 and then wrote a slightly condensed version of the story that preserved key characters, scenes, and dialog. By doing that, the Team reduced the word count by about 40%.  Many long Bible passages are like that.

We also wrote CREATIVE approaches to reading a lot of verses. Every lesson plan in that set has a different way of reading the story as a group. Supporting Members can see how we did all that at https://www.rotation.org/forum...et-the-cross-Mark-15

Using a condensed Storybook version (or writing your own), excerpting verses, summarizing certain parts and only reading key verses ---these are all ways to deal with LONG stories (those that have a lot of verses).

You can turn this "need to condense" into a game, which is especially fun if you have a Bible Skills and Games Workshop to play it in!   The game is called "How Few Can You Do" and was first described at rotation.org as a way to condense Deborah's story in as few keywords as possible.  It is described in a Writing Team lesson for Lazarus here, and in the Judges-Deborah lesson here, and also in general here for those who aren't supporting members.

GIANT or BOOK stories, like Joseph or Ruth simply need broken down into multiple lessons, and/or use what you might call "Focus on the Best, Summarize the Rest" -- identifying the key scenes to focus on and verbally summarizing the rest of the story. 

For Example, in our Wandering through the Wilderness lesson set, we identified four key scenes in the overall story to focus on, and noted that each of these key scenes were really dealing with the same issue:  "Stop your complaining and trust in God." 

Joseph's story has several scenes which could be summarized, ....Potiphar's Wife, for example, and the dream-telling in prison ...which is really just a set-up to get Joseph in front of Pharaoh to interpret his important dream.  The same can be done with the story of Ruth.

BOOK and GIANT stories require an approach geared to the story itself and tapping some special resources that are available.

For example, the Writing Team wrote six connected lessons about the story of the JUDGES -- where the THEME was the over-arching POINT of the lesson set, and each week's individual story about a different Judge reinforced that overall point.

The Team will be doing Ruth next year, and because Ruth features strong emotional content, it will make sense to SHOW actors vividly portraying those emotions and relationship, rather than attempt to read through each verse. 

For Jonah, let me take a moment of personal time to recommend the Elijah & Jonah software I produced for Sunday Software. We took the story of Jonah WORD FOR WORD and turned it into an interactive comic book. That's a good example of what you can do about a BOOK or GIANT  or LONG story when you have a special resource that helps you cover the story without losing your students' attention.

Drama Workshops can sometimes pull some of this BIG story weight too, IF you have different groups in your class prepare the different parts of the story and then come together to present the full story.

For these big stories, you might also use a drama technique I call, "1 minute Bible" ...where different teams compete to see who can retell the story in the most complete way, not leaving out key moments, ...in under a minute. 

VIDEO is TERRIFIC WAY to deal with Long, Giant, and Book stories.

Invariably, a good video that retells the story without too many changes, is a great way to "SHOW" the Long/Giant or Book story to kids, rather than subject them to a period of reading that can take up way too much class time and turn off learners.

One of the techniques Rotation churches will often use is showing a video of the complete story on the FIRST WEEK of the Rotation to a gathering of all the classes in rotation. This kicks off the four to five week of workshops by giving all the students "the full story." 

In traditional Sunday Schools, you would show the movie on one week, and follow up on it the next with scripture and activities.

  In Summary, there's usually a creative solution to the problem of teaching long, giant, and book Bible stories. And often the answer depends on the story itself, and what resources you can find to do the heavy lifting.



You can find a similar discussion for Rotation Model Sunday Schools in the "Scope and Sequence" discussion here for the Rotation Model.

Feel free to post your thoughts and questions. 

If you have a story you need ideas for, you should post it in the Teachers Lounge

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